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Marijn MetzlarRookie

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Multiselect task execution error message

Hi @Anne Buit Thanks for the elaborate update! I wasn't triggered when reading the Indicium Release Notes, but glad you mentioned this change. I think the description there is clearer if you replace the bold part with ‘could not be executed on one’Minor fixes and tasksWe have fixed an issue that occurred when using multi-row tasks in the Universal GUI. When the task could be executed on none of the selected records, for instance, due to a context procedure, the entire set would fail. Indicium will now ignore such errors, just like the Windows and Web GUIs do. We concluded that in an important scenario for which we use the multi-row Task execution the lack of a notification to the end user is a huge risk, we cannot affort the task execution skipping a record unnoticed to the end user. So we're currently going to work around it by not using the context procedure, but instead extend the Process Flow with some decision logic. So we're definitely eager to have the ability to notify the user

Spyros.NeofytouSidekick

Header in Form should not be enlarged for empty columns in Read modeOpen

Thanks @Mark Jongeling !

Spyros.NeofytouSidekick

Header in Form should not be enlarged for empty columns in Read modeOpen

@Mark Jongeling Given the reply from @Spyros.Neofytou: could you make the topic title more in line with the desired solution? Something like “Header in Form should not be enlarged for empty columns in Read mode”

Arie VSuperhero

Add intelligent Search box to Universal GUI headerOpen

To take this idea another step further: how about actually using the Office 365 Search box and integrating the Thinkwise data into the Office 365 Search using the Search API through Microsoft Graph? For inspiration and references check this podcast and this Microsoft documentation. Microsoft offers connectors to Microsoft SQL server and Azure SQL databases and third-party offerings include AWS and Google SQL databases too.I am pretty sure that the vast majority of the Thinkwise customers uses Office 365 and I believe this could be a great potential solution to:Leverage the Search capabilities of Microsoft (so no need to develop all of this from scratch yourselves) Better integrate Thinkwise with productivity & collaboration tools

Spyros.NeofytouSidekick

Header in Form should not be enlarged for empty columns in Read modeOpen

Hi @Spyros.Neofytou Not sure if ‘a global setting’ is the desired solution here. But the functional issue that my end users are also complaining about is the fact that empty fields in Read mode (or empty Read Only fields in Edit mode) do attract unnecessary attention with the current GUI design of enlarging the headers of these empty fields.I would think that simply always showing the headers as small in Read mode / Read Only fields is the most straightforward solution. If you agree with that, you have my vote and a change of title of this Idea might be useful.Disclaimer: I DO LIKE the fact that Editable fields in Edit mode do have the header displayed a little larger for empty fields! A slight remark is the inconsistency with Domain with Elements or Lookup fields, these headers are never enlarged for some reason…

Diana KuipersModerator

Release notes Indicium (2021.2.13)release notes

Hi @Diana Kuipers Good to see these changes!One small remark: the first JSON example when clicking on the link in my post still contains the DefaultIdentityProvider row, might be good to change that too.

Diana KuipersModerator

Release notes Universal GUI (2021.2.12)release notes

@Leroy Witteveen Check, thanks for the clarification!

Marijn MetzlarRookie

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Multiselect task execution error message

Hi @Anne Buit Any news on the direction you'll be taking with this situation and related timelines for changes?

Diana KuipersModerator

Release notes Universal GUI (2021.2.12)release notes

Support for refresh subjectPreviously, when changing rows after editing a row in an auto-saving default editable grid, the subject wouldn't refresh. This improved the performance of the default editable grids.Now, we've added support for refreshing the subject. This can be configured by setting the option Refresh after update to "Subject" or "Document". It is possible to disable refreshing after updating by setting Refresh after update to "None".This option is available in the menu User interface > Subjects > tab Default > tab Settings > tab Performance.To get this straight: should the Refresh after update also work on grids for which default editable is not enabled? It doesn't seem to do so...

René WSuperhero

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Call default on editing

Hi @René W I’m curious to hear which solutions you’ll end up with! We have the same situation with system-versioned tables and multiple triggers cluttering the system-versioned data, of which also the update_user/update_date_time and update_counter. Only difference is that we’re using Universal GUI. Two things I could mention from our situation:We discussed using Defaults too, but as we have these fields for logging purposes it is important to us to have update_date_time equal the DB transaction time. Since Defaults are set upon entering edit mode or upon editing another column, we didn’t see Defaults as a fitting option. Saving/committing of the record could be done quite a bit later than the defaulted date_time. We have it on the backlog to try and combine the 2 update triggers, this saves a row in the system-versioned table for every commit.Are there other alternatives to consider?

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Is it possible to only highlight the value with the conditional layout on the form instead the whole field like in the grid?

In the latest Universal GUI Release 2021.2.12 they actually changed the Grid Conditional Formatting to fill the entire column.Change in conditional layout in gridWe've changed the way conditional layouts are shown in the grid. Now they fill the entire cell, rather than just the value with a 5px padding. This means that empty cells with a conditional layout will also be entirely colored. Besides, the text color set in the conditional layout is applied correctly now.

Diana KuipersModerator

Release notes Indicium (2021.2.13)release notes

@Diana Kuipers Could you make sure the documentation is updated with the breaking change for Default Identity Provider?https://docs.thinkwisesoftware.com/docs/deployment/indicium.html#integrate-an-external-identity-provider-into-indicium

efitskieSidekick

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Does the Azure AD authentication support MFA?

Hi @efitskie In addition to Erwin’s comment I would like to mention a few things:SSO and MFA with Azure AD works like a charm for Universal GUI, we are about to go live with it after extended testing and waiting for some improvements from Thinkwise In correction to the answer of Erwin: the caching of login details and frequency of MFA is not dependent on Thinkwise since authentication is left to the external Open ID provider. This is entirely based on your Azure AD configuration for MFA and (optionally) Conditional Access policies your organization uses The blog Erwin is referring to, is not entirely complete, the docs here are a bit better to start with: https://docs.thinkwisesoftware.com/docs/deployment/indicium.html#integrate-an-external-identity-provider-into-indicium EDIT 13-07-2021: The docs are now up to date on the latest change since Indicium 2021.2.12/13 regarding setting a default identity provider Be aware that each Open ID provider has their particularities, in order to ge

Arie VSuperhero

SSO exception neededCompleted

Works like a charm with Indicium 2021.2.12!

Tom van DrutenWarrior

Domain (elements) VariantOn the backlog

Hi @Jasper You refer to this (marked as Duplicate) Idea in the Release Plan for 2021.3. Could you elaborate a bit on how this solution will be implemented? Can I assume in results in the same functional behavior as the seperate Idea I raised (if yes, I'm happy and maybe it can be merged)?

Peter VerwijsModerator

Thinkwise Platform Release 2021.2Blog

Hi @Peter Verwijs,I particularly miss information about both Document Type support and Audio/Video type support. I am not a fan of having to figure out myself what works and what doesn't if there is no doubt some sort of logic or list based on which your Preview component is developed. I don't mind if you would refer to an external comprehensive list in your documentation if you wish to keep your documentation concise, although I prefer comprehensive documentation from suppliers.My users don't think in (non-standard) file extensions, until they encounter an unexpected error. The ‘beep’ system of end users telling me about unexpected restrictions in a Production environment is also not to my liking.

Diana KuipersModerator

Release notes Universal GUI (2021.2.11)release notes

Hi @Tim de Lang Thanks for your clarifications!I am not going to raise an Idea though, I am an existing customer reading your blogs closely. So we’ll make sure the setting is added to our config.json going forward. To me this is a matter of principle: adding settings to config.json and determining the default behavior is not something that should be determined by your customers, but should be based on a vision from you as Universal GUI supplier: what do you believe is the best way to utilize the Universal GUI. My recommendation: add ALL AVAILABLE settings to the config.json with a DEFAULT setting you recommend, and properly DOCUMENT behavior for each setting (true/false/removing line). Then each customer sees all options when downloading a Universal GUI version and can determine their preference. This also means that I would expect to see settings like the Install Notification or Login Options by default in the config.json. Also, think about the formulation. For example, the settings

Peter VerwijsModerator

Thinkwise Platform Release 2021.2Blog

@Peter Verwijs On the change regarding File storage extension whitelist moved: I earlier understood from @Anne Buit that the use of whitelisting will be useful for GUI support to users: https://html.spec.whatwg.org/multipage/input.html#attr-input-acceptIn that case it would really help us to have a complete list of file extensions supported by the Preview component, as a good starting point for setting up our whitelist. Could the whitelist documentation and/or the preview documentation be updated with (a reference to) the full list of supported file extensions?

Diana KuipersModerator

Release notes Universal GUI (2021.2.11)release notes

@Diana Kuipers Additionally it might be good to mention in your blog that late Friday afternoon a second version of the BETA has been released in order to fix an issue with Lookups not being displayed.

Diana KuipersModerator

Release notes Universal GUI (2021.2.11)release notes

@Diana Kuipers The filled form fields is a great improvement to the GUI! I pressume PI thinks so too, as otherwise you wouldn't have put in the development effort. May I therefore strongly urge you to change the behavior of the setting: by default have the filled form fields ENABLED (without having to add the setting to the config.json) and only if a customer does not wish to use the setting have them add the setting and false value to config.json? This saves the need and risk of having to verify the setting each and every upgrade, and also makes sure new customers enjoy the new setting by default. Two other questions about Conditional layout:We have gotten used to having Conditional layout only in the Grid and not to the Form, and in quite some situations this is actually sufficient. Is there a way to apply Conditional layout only to the Grid? We currently have a Conditional layout setting which is applied to ALL columns (no specific Column is selected under the header Applied to). Th

J. de LangeCaptain

asked in Questions & Conversations

subscribe indicium to AWS SNS

@Anne Buit we are familiar with your suggestions and the AWS issue. It is now (temporarily) resolved with a Lambda between SNS and Indicium. Thanks to your earlier suggestion and extensive blogs we actually got the idea to circumvent the Content Type issue with the message-protocol independent web services and got that part covered. Then we unfortunately got stuck at the Subscription confirmation part… Ideally, we want to get rid of the Lambda (or API Gateway proxy) in between. Thinkwise and AWS SNS should be able to work together, given the fact that SNS is such a common service (yeah, I know AWS sucks on both the Content Type bug and the way they handle Subscription confirmation, but they are the bigger ones and I guess it’s easier to get flexibility in your low code platform...). How about adding some flexibility on authentication responses, specifically for message-protocol independent web services in Indicium?

Marijn MetzlarRookie

asked in Questions & Conversations

Multiselect task execution error message

Hi Anne,Thanks for your clarification, we did some internal follow up discussion and would like to provide the following pointers for a preferred solution:We think it is too rigid that the Universal GUI simply calls off the entire execution We can think of scenario's in which we like the Task to execute for all eligible rows, whilst not executing the Task against the in-eligible row. Say if a user selects 20 records for some bulk edit action and 1 of these rows would call off the entire Task: then the user would have to go row by row to figure out which one is causing the Task to fail and then de-select that one. We can also think of scenario's in which we like the Task to execute for ALL rows In that case we would like to add our own process flow decision logic and return a message to end users, telling them about the in-eligible row and asking them whether or not to continue. We wish to be able to customize the error message Block vs warn Show vs hide Edit message content

Edwin SaanSidekick

asked in Questions & Conversations

Disable confirm button in universal

@Mark Jongeling @Edwin Saan FYI: we have raised a bug for this issue somewhere in March. I don’t like to expose my end users to these kind of user-unfriendly errors, so I expect it to be fixed soon.

Diana KuipersModerator

Release notes Universal GUI (2021.2.10)release notes

@René W & @Arie V As for multi select in a card list. The stories to make that happen are already on the backlog but are waiting to be refined. (Bassically estimate out how expensive these are to make). I will move them up. Currently the do not have a target sprint yet. To be clear: I don't really have an urgent need for this functionality. Actions that require multiselect will most likely not be performed that often on mobile devices.

Diana KuipersModerator

Release notes Universal GUI (2021.2.10)release notes

Just a bit curious, the multiselect feature is currently only for grids, but we really only make use of card lists in the Universal GUI, which we use targeting mobile and tablet devices. Is this also planned? The grid layouts are quite spacious, that is why we use card lists to keep it more compact (targeting mobiles). I think the last post by @Arie V here explains it properly: Grids aren't really useful on mobile devices, where card list are. @René W Good that you mention this, we do the exact same thing. I wanted to do a quick test of the multi-select feature on mobile devices and then realised we indeed only use Cardlists on Mobile! @Sebastiaan Meijerink I'm also curious to know if we will be able to do multi-select on Cardlists and then execute Tasks on it.

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