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Testing the Release Candidate of the Univeral GUI (2025.1.13 rc1.0), certain screen seems to break. Before being aware of the actual cause, I had already created a TCP ticket, but is seems this change was the cause:

We actually do have certain screens where we claim a little vertical space to show the one Grid record, so the user is more aware what exactly he is working under. Also there is a benefit that the user can change the column order and the option to automatically scale the width of the column depending on the data, does make a nice compact way to show information.

A form is in several cases not a viable option for the way they work and the space they need.

Consistency is a factor as well in the situation where all (actual) tabs contains grid and only 1-2 are perhaps 1:1 references. Suddenly breaking the pattern to grid add/edit your data is not desirable.

In our situation it is only grid at the moment, but the idea to have a cardist popup with some fancy formatting for certain records that would end up being 1:1, would be destroyed by this change.

There are definitely situation where it probably would be an option or even better to go to a form, but please do not make this change a final solution.

@Arie V Please reconsider this change and let us choose to want to use the components even for 1:1 references.

Hello ​@Mark_Plaggenborg,

This was implemented the same way as the Windows GUI works in these scenarios in order to offer an easier migration path.
On the other hand, we understand your use case.
We are discussing internally how we will best accommodate both use cases, I will come back to you as soon as possible.

Kind regards,
Leroy Witteveen


@Leroy Witteveen Thanks for considering.

I am unclear about the statement it being implemented the same way as the Windows GUI, as this seems untouched there. Or are we talking Tier 3?

Windows GUI:


Universal GUI:


 


​Hi @Mark_Plaggenborg,

When we evaluated how the Windows GUI works in this regard, we wrongly understood that it always prunes the Grid and Tree in a 1-on-1 detail.
We just digged further and came to the conclusion that it only does this when there is also a Form configured, just like your screenshots shows.
We will be hotfixing this in the final 2025.1.13 release.

Kind regards,
Leroy Witteveen


@Leroy Witteveen Much appreciated!

That way we can keep following the release interval of the Universal GUI. There were a few features and fixes that we were eagerly awaiting.


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